Hi mates. Could you please introduce yourselves? I’d like to ask you to tell about your previous projects as well.
Greetings! We are Nietzsche and the Wagners, a Post-Punk band from Leipzig, Saxony. We’ve just released our first full-length album “No Truth” via Werkstatt Recordings. Our back-catalogue also contains two demo recording named “Copperclad” (a very minimalistic recording distributed among friends only) and “Asphodels”, our first semi-professional output.
As for our previous projects there is nothing special to mention, we used to play in some rather obscure Black Metal and Industrial projects. Right now Vlad P. is also involved in an Ethno-Black Metal band called Darkestrah as bassist and lyricist.
How do you started the band, at what point did you get attracted to music, who was its founder?
Well this is a story worth telling. The band was started in a train form Chemnitz to Leipzig by Vlad P. (vox and on several points bass) and Arthur Brozgol (guitars), who are still core members. It was September 27th, a day after Vlad’s birthday and we were returning home from its celebration, that consisted of drinking a lot of absinth and visiting Sonne Hagal concert in some old bunker in Chemnitz. Sonne Hagal had their best period at that time, playing in a very cold manner, using a drum machine and two synths. We were very influenced by that show and the spirits of neofolk haunted our music for a pretty long period.
Anyways, the mix of absinth and this kind of music seemed to be an ideal basis for inspiration.
How two important personalities like Nietzsche and Wagner related to the name of the band?
There are several different answers to that question. On one hand Nietzsche and the Wagners is a spoof on Siouxsie and the Banshees that Vlad invented some time before the band was started. This is a kind of tribute to the band, because their two first albums are among our absolute favorites.
On other hand there is another explanation. The conflict between an individuality and the mass is one of the main topics of our lyrics and here we have Nietzsche, an individualist philosopher, and Wagner, who, though kind of unwillingly has composed a soundtrack to mass totalitarian movements. This is also Wagners are mentioned in Plural, against a single Nietzsche.
Also we find it funny to watch how people react on the name. One guy, who we know nothing about mentioned our band name once among the real band names that sound like fake band names.
Listening to Nietzsche and the Wagners is obvious the psychedelic rock and postpunk roots. Who are your idols?
As expected, we have been strongly influenced by Post-Punk and Goth Rock classics, especially at the beginning. Joy Division, Killing Joke, early Death In June, the above-mentioned Siouxsie and such. We also have taken much from Eastern European scene, Russian Grazhdanskaja Oborona and Kooperativ Nishtjak, Polish Siekiera, 1984 and Pornografia, early works of Ukrainian Band Komu Vnyz.
And, well, Darkthrone. No idea if you can hear it in our music, but without this band we’d never sarted to play anything at all.
Now the thing with Psychedelic Rock. We like and use a lot of elements from this genre, wall of sound, reversed guitar soli, but it is hard to say if any band has influenced us in particular. We are very glad that we could find Andy J. Harris, who was able to handle this sound. We could mention Hawkwind and Neu! from the classics and Neavus from contemporary bands.
Do you follow current music trends? Which modern bands do you like, if any?
I think we do… A huge Post-Punk and New Wave scene has risen in the later years in different regions and we follow many of these bands. Sierpien from Russia, Wieze Fabryk from Poland and The KVB from the UK are among our newer favorites.
Could you tell us about the concept behind your last album ‘No Truth’?
The album was recorded during revolution in Ukraine (Arthur’s native land) and Russian (Vlad’s native land) invasion to Crimea and Donbass and these events have left a huge mark on both atmosphere and lyrics of the album. We were also enraged with the rise of aggressive obscurantism as mainstream political ideology in Russia, and this rage was our driving creative force. For example the song “Dance of the Golems” ends with a series of quotations from critical, satirical and dissident texts in Russian, that sometimes contain obscene vocabulary.
There is also a series of songs, “The Forlorn Hope”, “The Siege”, and “No Truth” that handle the idea of resistance against all odds, even if the cause seems to be lost.
This is also why we’ve used “Peacemaker”, a painting by KRH Sonderborg, depicting a machine gun, as the main device on our album’s front cover.
Your album ‘No Truth’ published by the Greek label Werkstatt Recordings. Tell us about this collaboration.
When we and our sound engineer Andy J. Harris have finished the recording, we’ve sent it to different labels. The main criterion of choice was that the labels were releasing something we liked. This is why we’ve addressed Werkstatt Recordings who were releasing Kriistal Ann. Kostas was interested in our music and that is how the collaboration has started.
Do you want Nietzsche and the Wagners remains ‘underground’ or make the band more ’catchy’ in the future? In what ways would you develop your sound?
Yeah, it surely could be fun to play on stadiums and sell hundreds thousands of CDs, but we don’t think we’ll ever manage to achieve this without sacrificing a lot of things that are substantial for our musical concept. I think we are “following our instinct not a trend” (a funny quotation from a platinum-selling album, haha) and our instinct most surely won’t lead as to the popularity among the silent majority.
However, after over three years we’ve decided to return to live activities. Right now we are a trio, with a new member Chroma Rübelus MO joining us on bass so that Vlad could concentrate on his vocal duties, and we are rehearsing extensively to be able to hit the stage around autumn.
Thank you for your interest and attention.